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Doctorow On Whuffie In SF Gate

What perfect timing!
Q&A: Cory Doctorow
Science-fiction novelist on Disney, Whuffie, Napster and what’s wrong with San Francisco

By Dylan Tweney, Special to SF Gate.

In your book, you have a sort of alternate currency called Whuffie. The characters are constantly checking one another’s Whuffie scores and looking for ways to earn more Whuffie. Can you explain the idea?
Well, currency is a way of keeping score today. Whuffie is how much esteem people hold you in. Currency is a really rough approximation of Whuffie. You can’t really get a job without esteem. You generally can’t get a mortgage with no esteem.
In the book, I have this sort of magical McGuffin technology, which is something that can automatically find out how you feel about everything that you have an opinion on. Then, someone who has a high opinion about me can ask me — without any kind of conscious intervention — how I feel about you. They can just ask the network, “How is it that Cory feels about you?” And that gives them some idea of how much time of day they should give you.
It sounds a little like walking around with your bank balance displayed in a box above your head at all times.
Well, it’s true. Except, you know, we already do this, in some way. As currency is a rough approximation of your Whuffie, the things that currency affords, like your style of dress, your haircut, all the semiotics of your presentation, are descended from Whuffie. It’s just that Whuffie’s harder to [fake].
The Internet has made us very socially deviant, in the sense that social norms are enforced by groups. If you have some incredibly strange idea of, for instance, wearing underwear on your head, generally speaking, there is social disapprobation that keeps that factor in check. But on the Internet, you can basically exist in the communication spheres of people who have the same value system as yours, no matter how weird it may be. On the Internet, you don’t get that pressure to return to a norm. In some ways, Whuffie is a way to make you more socially normative. It’s not necessarily a good thing.
Why did you call it “Whuffie”?
The word is what we used in high school instead of “brownie points.” A friend of mine pointed out, given the era that I went to high school in, that it almost certainly came from “The Arsenio Hall Show”: “Woof, woof, woof.”…
…In the world of “Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom,” there’s no death, there are unlimited resources, nanotechnology can create any object you desire (including a clone of yourself) and energy is free. What were you trying to accomplish by setting the story in that kind of world?
I wanted to clarify my own thinking about what a non-scarce economics looks like. Keynes and Marx and the great economic thinkers are all concerned with the management of resources that are scarce. If it’s valuable, it needs to be managed, because the supply of it will dwindle. You need to avert the tragedy of the commons [the notion that self-interested individuals, such as sheepherders, will always use as much of a common resource as possible, such as a grassy pasture, until that resource is totally depleted].
Today, with things that can be represented digitally, we have the opposite. In the Napster universe, everyone who downloads a file makes a copy of it available. This isn’t a tragedy of the commons, this is a commons where the sheep s*** grass — where the more you graze, the more commons you get.

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Whuffie – The Currency Of The Future

I’ve been re-reading Down and Out In The Magic Kingdom again, and it really is all that good. If you haven’t read it yet, you might want to check out the HTML
version of it online.

Now that it has become apparent that people are ready to look to new ways of managing information, money and intangible assets (such as “knowlege”), it seems like a good time to start talking about what kind of system would be fair and ideal — just to give us something to strive for as we reshape our future.
Besides being a great read and a lot of fun (which is, of course, always the first requirement of any book I recommend), I feel that this book is an important one, because it really provides lots of excellent tangible examples of how a Reputation Economy might work.
Reputation systems are something that I have been fascinated with and meaning to write about for some time, but there were so many people already writing about them that knew so much more than me, and I realized about this time two years ago that I had so much to learn, I’d better just shut up and learn from other people for a few years before trying to teach anyone else about them.
Basically, in a reputation economy, you are rewarded with points when you do good things for the overall population. These points can vary in value between discounts on merchandise (in certain instances) or simply earning you respect among your peers.
Here’s a clip from the Book’s Prologue that helps to explain the concept better. (I’m rummaging around for some good papers on this too.)

… Whuffie recaptured the true essence of money: in the old days, if you were broke but respected, you wouldn