So what if Bush, Sr. had ties to the Bin Laden family? Maybe Moore (or others) haven't read it, but Osama is pretty much the black sheep of the family. There is, IIRC, a brother of Osama, who lives in Boston and is like a HUGE benefactor to the city, taking HIS share of the family inheritance and putting it to good use in the community. I remember reading in an interview with the Boston Bin Ladens after 9/11, that they were talking about how hard it is having to constantly distance themselves from what they essentially view as "their nutjob brother".

Let Moore spin his wheels, though, he'll go nuts with it, and destroy his own credibility in one fell swoop.

This Goliath of War

Goliath has once more roared
Obsessed to speak with hate and blood
Nodding its head to Guilty God
Proceeds to march on the ignored!

He has again shown his face
Visage reddened with disgrace
marred with scars of perished past
and a dark shadow is cast.

Under pretense of "One Nation",
He waves a flag of Martyrdom;
Though sole colors of Unity
Are those humming Humanity.

Venomous vultures circling upon
Children begging intervention;
But the only meager mention
is the way they were spat on.

He has thus coerced the blind
to serve the heads of humankind
on platters ladden with greed
and a propaganda seed.

To tolerate furthermore
This nonesensical Bush of War,
is to endorse silently
the genocide of Humanity!

Narbe' M. 3/22/03
SAY NO TO WAR...DON'T STAY PASSIVE...

Right! DEREK probably wouldn't be saying all that if he realized that between Sept 11 and Sept 13th, when all flights were grounded by the FAA, that members of the Bin Laden family were picked up in a Saudi lear-jet from locations all around america, and quickly flown out of the country before the FBI could ask them any questions. Furthermore the White House FORBID them from contacting members of the Bin Laden family.

11 of the 15 high-jackers came from Saudi Arabia, so why is it in Afghanistan that we dropped the bombs?

Did you know that in 1997 the Taliban were guests of Unocal Oil and Cheney's Halliburton, at their Texas HQ in Houston?

All this and more is very suspiricous

Geez.. isn't it amazing????? all you Demoboobs can do is rant and rave about Bush and big oil... not a word about Slick willie when he gave the chinese the technology they needed to build missiles that would reach us. Not a word about all the campaign cash that came from them and God knows who else. All this crap about how much it cost us for Bush to land on an aircraft carrier.. can anyone say Slick Willies haircut that cost how many thousands????? give me a break.

Geez.. isn't it amazing????? all you Demoboobs can do is rant and rave about Bush and big oil... not a word about Slick willie when he gave the chinese the technology they needed to build missiles that would reach us. Not a word about all the campaign cash that came from them and God knows who else. All this crap about how much it cost us for Bush to land on an aircraft carrier.. can anyone say Slick Willies haircut that cost how many thousands????? give me a break.

Considering Moore has spent over a year already researching for this film alone, let alone the research it took to make 'Bowling For Columbine' and writing 'Stupid White Men', people like Derek should think twice before assuming that Michael Moore hasn't read a few simple facts. Rather, given facts like those that 'Monkey Sue' gave (along with many more listed in 'Stupid White Men'), it seems it is Derek and fellow people who follow the American Government blindly and unquestioning who lack the basic facts. I urge you to take a look around, don't necessarily trust what is sold to you in the media by The Bush Administration.

It seems Mirage thinks that there is some connection between what he said about Clinton and the current arguments against Bush. You cannot refute evidence against bush by asking a completely unrelated question. That's just Logic101. Maybe if you are so offended, you could do some research about these things instead of just changing the subject when you become uncomfortable and unable to offer counterarguments.

Michael Moore does excellent and extensive research for his films. There are many more very sketchy things surrounding Sept 11 such as why the White house waited almost 1 hour before scrambling fighter jets. Even though 4 planes had been hijacked, an unprecendented event, they didnt seem to think it was necessary to send up fighter planes. It is also strange that it was the CIA itself who fostered islamic fundamentalism in order to try to create a global jihand agains the USSR. Funny enough, it was the US that trained most of the freedom fighters (until 9/11) who are now terrorists (after 9-11). The mujahadeen were regularly invited to DC and London during the societ invasion. Terrorism was ok then, but its not now that they have been with us.

Its also funny that the embassy bombings in africa, after forensic tests were done, were bombed by explosives from the US army. Thats interesting to say the least. It's also interesting that the government had full knowledge of 9/11 and let it happen on purpose, simiar to us knowing about Pearl Harbor and intentionally not warning Hawaii and then pretending it was this surprise attack so that the country would be scared into supporting a war that previously nobody wanted to get involved due to american isolationism at the time.

It seems Mirage thinks that there is some connection between what he said about Clinton and the current arguments against Bush. You cannot refute evidence against bush by asking a completely unrelated question. That's just Logic101. Maybe if you are so offended, you could do some research about these things instead of just changing the subject when you become uncomfortable and unable to offer counterarguments.

Michael Moore does excellent and extensive research for his films. There are many more very sketchy things surrounding Sept 11 such as why the White house waited almost 1 hour before scrambling fighter jets. Even though 4 planes had been hijacked, an unprecendented event, they didnt seem to think it was necessary to send up fighter planes. It is also strange that it was the CIA itself who fostered islamic fundamentalism in order to try to create a global jihand agains the USSR. Funny enough, it was the US that trained most of the freedom fighters (until 9/11) who are now terrorists (after 9-11). The mujahadeen were regularly invited to DC and London during the societ invasion. Terrorism was ok then, but its not now that they have been with us.

Its also funny that the embassy bombings in africa, after forensic tests were done, were bombed by explosives from the US army. Thats interesting to say the least. It's also interesting that the government had full knowledge of 9/11 and let it happen on purpose, simiar to us knowing about Pearl Harbor and intentionally not warning Hawaii and then pretending it was this surprise attack so that the country would be scared into supporting a war that previously nobody wanted to get involved due to american isolationism at the time.

It seems Mirage thinks that there is some connection between what he said about Clinton and the current arguments against Bush. You cannot refute evidence against bush by asking a completely unrelated question. That's just Logic101. Maybe if you are so offended, you could do some research about these things instead of just changing the subject when you become uncomfortable and unable to offer counterarguments.

Michael Moore does excellent and extensive research for his films. There are many more very sketchy things surrounding Sept 11 such as why the White house waited almost 1 hour before scrambling fighter jets. Even though 4 planes had been hijacked, an unprecendented event, they didnt seem to think it was necessary to send up fighter planes. It is also strange that it was the CIA itself who fostered islamic fundamentalism in order to try to create a global jihand agains the USSR. Funny enough, it was the US that trained most of the freedom fighters (until 9/11) who are now terrorists (after 9-11). The mujahadeen were regularly invited to DC and London during the societ invasion. Terrorism was ok then, but its not now that they have been with us.

Its also funny that the embassy bombings in africa, after forensic tests were done, were bombed by explosives from the US army. Thats interesting to say the least. It's also interesting that the government had full knowledge of 9/11 and let it happen on purpose, simiar to us knowing about Pearl Harbor and intentionally not warning Hawaii and then pretending it was this surprise attack so that the country would be scared into supporting a war that previously nobody wanted to get involved due to american isolationism at the time.

It seems Mirage thinks that there is some connection between what he said about Clinton and the current arguments against Bush. You cannot refute evidence against bush by asking a completely unrelated question. That's just Logic101. Maybe if you are so offended, you could do some research about these things instead of just changing the subject when you become uncomfortable and unable to offer counterarguments.

Michael Moore does excellent and extensive research for his films. There are many more very sketchy things surrounding Sept 11 such as why the White house waited almost 1 hour before scrambling fighter jets. Even though 4 planes had been hijacked, an unprecendented event, they didnt seem to think it was necessary to send up fighter planes. It is also strange that it was the CIA itself who fostered islamic fundamentalism in order to try to create a global jihand agains the USSR. Funny enough, it was the US that trained most of the freedom fighters (until 9/11) who are now terrorists (after 9-11). The mujahadeen were regularly invited to DC and London during the societ invasion. Terrorism was ok then, but its not now that they have been with us.

Its also funny that the embassy bombings in africa, after forensic tests were done, were bombed by explosives from the US army. Thats interesting to say the least. It's also interesting that the government had full knowledge of 9/11 and let it happen on purpose, simiar to us knowing about Pearl Harbor and intentionally not warning Hawaii and then pretending it was this surprise attack so that the country would be scared into supporting a war that previously nobody wanted to get involved due to american isolationism at the time.

murder,kill, and mame all in the name of god

George W. Bush has stated he'd prefer to be a dictator at least three times, according to BuzzFlash.com:

"You don't get everything you want. A dictatorship would be a lot easier." Describing what it's like to be governor of Texas.(Governing Magazine 7/98)
-- From Paul Begala's "Is Our Children Learning?"

"I told all four that there are going to be some times where we don't agree with each other, but that's OK. If this were a dictatorship, it would be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator," Bush joked.
-- CNN.com, December 18, 2000

"A dictatorship would be a heck of a lot easier, there's no question about it, " [Bush] said.
-- Business Week, July 30, 2001

Buzzflash.com thanks a loyal reader for compiling this chronology.
October 29, 2002
http://www.buzzflash.com/analysis/2002/10/29_Dictator.html

George W. Bush has stated he'd prefer to be a dictator at least three times, according to BuzzFlash.com:

"You don't get everything you want. A dictatorship would be a lot easier." Describing what it's like to be governor of Texas.(Governing Magazine 7/98)
-- From Paul Begala's "Is Our Children Learning?"

"I told all four that there are going to be some times where we don't agree with each other, but that's OK. If this were a dictatorship, it would be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator," Bush joked.
-- CNN.com, December 18, 2000

"A dictatorship would be a heck of a lot easier, there's no question about it, " [Bush] said.
-- Business Week, July 30, 2001

Buzzflash.com thanks a loyal reader for compiling this chronology.
October 29, 2002
http://www.buzzflash.com/analysis/2002/10/29_Dictator.html

George W. Bush has stated he'd prefer to be a dictator at least three times, according to BuzzFlash.com:

"You don't get everything you want. A dictatorship would be a lot easier." Describing what it's like to be governor of Texas.(Governing Magazine 7/98)
-- From Paul Begala's "Is Our Children Learning?"

"I told all four that there are going to be some times where we don't agree with each other, but that's OK. If this were a dictatorship, it would be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator," Bush joked.
-- CNN.com, December 18, 2000

"A dictatorship would be a heck of a lot easier, there's no question about it, " [Bush] said.
-- Business Week, July 30, 2001

Buzzflash.com thanks a loyal reader for compiling this chronology.
October 29, 2002
http://www.buzzflash.com/analysis/2002/10/29_Dictator.html

micheal moore never said the bin ladens should have been arrested. he said they should have been questioned just like family members are in any mass murder investigation. don't you think the special private jet treatment was at least a little shady?

micheal moore never said the bin ladens should have been arrested. he said they should have been questioned just like family members are in any mass murder investigation. don't you think the special private jet treatment was at least a little shady?

George bush is guilty of murder, rape, destruction of our economy and killing our own soldiers for a ficticous oil war boiled with propaganda, that he later had rumsfield deny ever proclaiming "Huh? WMD in Iraq? Naw, i never said that, must have been a doppleganger".

Yeah right moron.

Also, Dubya is hearby charged with this:

The economy is improving for first class citizens about 20 percent.
And it is removing many jobs from the country.
in columbia city indiana, 3 factories shut down over last fall/winter, 6 in fort wayne, 2 in warsaw, 2 in south whitley, and thats about 2,000+ workers laid off.

so where the hell are our jobs?

Then he says its good for the economy to send jobs overseas - it IS!!! for the rich.

Nike for example was caught in a scam involving a singapore sweatshop, paying the slaves 32 cents a month or something like that. of course its good for the economy, the company gets over 1,000 percent profit!

Now, back to the 76% of america that makes less than 24k a year, more specificly, the 11% unemployed, or the 40% that makes less than 11k a year?

so uh... jobs? anyone?

The Democrate who created the least amount of Jobs was Kennedy. However he still created more than any other Republican. Comming ahead of Nixon and Reagan. The Rest werent even close. George Bush #2 is dead last except for Hoover. What a disaster. Kerry-2004